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cool Wink
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kinda worries that you said gearbox mount needs modding
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PostSubject: Re: Corolla BEAMS conversion   Corolla BEAMS conversion - Page 10 EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 10:59 am

wont know for sure until i fit the engine. the avensis bracket that drops down from the mount and onto the gearbox doesnt look like it sits right. They are still useable, they just need bit cut off rather than added. also may have to just cut off the original corolla chassi brackets for the mount and just bolt the avensis mount to the chassi, probably the easiest and safest way, wont know for sure until the engines lined up and fitted tho!!
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PostSubject: Re: Corolla BEAMS conversion   Corolla BEAMS conversion - Page 10 EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 11:03 am

true, one of us will find out soon enough lol
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PostSubject: Re: Corolla BEAMS conversion   Corolla BEAMS conversion - Page 10 EmptyFri Nov 04, 2011 11:12 am

yip haha glad to get the engine out of it tho, will save a whole load of messing about!!
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true lol
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any updates?
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PostSubject: Re: Corolla BEAMS conversion   Corolla BEAMS conversion - Page 10 EmptySat Nov 12, 2011 8:55 am

Not much mate. got a few bits and pieces form the scrap yard. The drive shaft bracket for driver side, 2 clips to hold the gear linkages on the gearbox and got the inner cv joint off the passenger side st202 shaft to put onto the 182 shaft. No pics cause some scum bag asshole robbed my camera from my tool bag when i went into the house to grab a scissors. But, il have his reg number soon!!
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ok cool mate, hope you find the guy
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any news on this project mate?
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Not much dude, havent been able to do much in this shitty weather. got the drive shafts sorted and a universal inner cv boot for the passenger side shaft, also, the inner cv joint on the passenger side doesn't have to be cut off like a lot of people might tell you, all that is holding it in place is a large surclip ring. il post photos soon! Wink
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Will have some updates and pics soon. some scumbag robbed my good camera and the weathers been shit so been held up!! on the upside, i got the engine un-seized, and with little effort too. filled the cylinders with WD40 and some anti rust oil and left it for weeks, then gave it a small tug with the socket wrench and it came free!! happy days :Very Happy:
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been a while since i uploaded pics, but i will be doing so after the christmas. camera was stolen so had to improvise. since the last update, ive scrubbed the engine bay, unseized the engine, finished the hybrid shafts, and got a few goodies for the car for when its up and running!! updates and pics soon Wink
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nice one mate, cant wait to see pics
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PostSubject: Re: Corolla BEAMS conversion   Corolla BEAMS conversion - Page 10 EmptySat Dec 24, 2011 8:47 am

Me neither! Cant wait to pull my own engine as well though... But that will come... One day... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Corolla BEAMS conversion   Corolla BEAMS conversion - Page 10 EmptyFri Jan 06, 2012 9:37 am

are you going to use corolla gear linkages or celica linkages?
do you know if they are the same length?
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Im hoping to use the corolla linkages, will save a load of messing about. haven't got them out yet but they look approx the same length, and the parts that connect to the gearbox are the same, so i hope to just use them Wink went through the whole engine loom the last day, good thing to, the previous owner did some dodgy botch job on a few of the wires. i got a donor engine loom from the lad i bought the gearbox from so i used it for the wires and plugs, all better and much cleaner fix now. soldered everything!! Wink also got the drive shafts finished, i put them along side the corolla ones and just like i planned, they are the same length!! happy days, it paid off to go to the trouble of using the thicker and smaller st182 passenger shaft!! pics up soon.
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im having trouble with my corolla linkages, the bit of the linkage thats supposed to sit on top of the gearbox is too small so pops out, if the celica ones are the same length, il swap mine over for them
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Do you have the clips that slide over them onto the gearbox? If its the 3sge gearbox you're talking about i'd say just get celica linkages and save yourself the headache!! Wink
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Are the corolla and celica linkages same length?
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Dunno mate haven't measured them! Which part is poping back up? is it the small round piece at the very end that fits over the actual gears on the gearbox? cause if so, you can use the little pins to keep them in.
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The joys of a conversion, keep up the good work boys. Some time in he future I'll be putting a turbo on the BT 4age with 4wd, WRC styles
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Dunno mate haven't measured them! Which part is poping back up? is it the small round piece at the very end that fits over the actual gears on the gearbox? cause if so, you can use the little pins to keep them in.
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no not that bit, il try to take some pics of the bit that i mean
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Okay, christmas is over, got the use of a camera and got a break in the weather to do some work Wink happy New year to everyone. Some updates...

After getting the engine out, i gave the engine bay a bit of a scrub (not going to bother re-spraying it, just want the engine in now) Photos aren't great quality, some are mobile phone, the rest are a different camera.

Dirty engine bay
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Clean(ish) engine bay Wink
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Finally got my drive shafts finished. Had to order a inner cv boot. Here's a run down of the hybrid shafts;
Driver side: ST202 driver side shaft with Corona outer cv joint (also fits a celica st182)
Passenger side: ST182 shaft, ST202 inner joint, Corona outer cv joint. The ST182 shaft is thicker and shorter than the ST202.

This is the ST202 shaft (top) and ST182 shaft (bottom) before cv joints are put on. The ST202 passenger side inner cv joint is top left.
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What follows is step by step instructions on how to fit the outer cv joint and the inner cv joint.

First of all i'm gonna tell you what i was told i couldn't do by various mechanics and people that didn't bother to actually find out for themselves!! The ST202 inner cv joint was still on the ST202 passenger shaft, i needed it off and intact to put on the ST182 passenger shaft and i wasn't forking out for a new one as i already had one. I was told time time again that the joint would have to be "cut off" *cough bullshit cough*, I then went to the scrap yard to get one, but same story, "has to be cut off", and they wouldn't give it to me on it's own anyhow. So...i went to Toyota to price one. Same story, they only come intact with the drive shaft. I asked him how much, he told me to hang onto my balls!! "€600 for full shaft"!! Passport photo face ready, followed by hysterical laughter, a quick "good luck" and out the door!
So i brought the shaft to a Russian guy in Galway that owns SASHA MOTORS", he helped me out with an exhaust problem once when no-one else would touch it. I asked him if he could get the inner joint off intact, he took one look at it and said "yes very much. "20 meenits", charged me €20 and i now had a fully useable inner cv joint in one hand, and a banjaxed ST202 shaft in the other :thum: sound lad just saved me €580. How ever he got it off, he forced it off, cause the snap ring was still inside the joint, i later found out by a good friend thats a member here (and heres the good bit) that there is a "circlip" holding in the inner part of the joint that houses the bearings (photos below), and that all you need to do is remove it with a needle nose plyers and "walaa".. the whole thing slides off, then remove the snap ring on the end of the shaft and tap the rest off with a mallet. No cutting required Wink Happy frig'n days. You live and learn!! confused So...on with it...

Here is the ST182 shaft against the old 1.3 Corolla shaft. Lined them up to see the length. They are roughly the same length! Wink
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Started putting the outer cv joint on the ST182 shaft first
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Gave it a good clean first then on goes the boot
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This cv joint was not pre-greased so filled it up with cv joint grease before fitting it.
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Then lined up the cv joint (took a couple of goes to get the ring on the shaft to sit comfortably inside the joint), and tapped it on with a rubber mallet, put more grease inside the boot, fitted the boot over the cv joint and held it in place with the provided clips Wink
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One side done :thum:
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Next up was the ST202 inner cv joint on the passenger side. The old boot i had for this was almost worn, so i picked up a universal boot which i later replaced with a proper ST202 inner cv boot that i ordered so here's the process anyways. Also important to not, that when i was looking at all these boots i had around the place, i noticed that there is no difference in the celica ST202 outer cv boots, and inner cv boots. They both have good thickness, they both are the same length, the only difference is the price and difficulty in getting one, so next time you're ordering an ST202 inner cv boot, order an outer ST202 boot, its quicker, less hassle and cheaper! Wink

Worn boot
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Inner ST202 cv joint
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Pulled the battered snap ring out (before i learned about removing the circlip to get everything out) confused
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Put the universal boot on (later changed it for the proper celica inner boot i ordered)
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I had a inner cv joint kit i got from a friend, so i figured as i had the bearings out from the inner joint, i may as well swap the whole inner parts for the newer parts. Also i figured after pulling out the battered snap ring through the teeth of the cv joint, it may be wiser to replace it as it could be worn or damaged!!

So first, i put the outer ring over the shaft (narrow side first) then lined up the inner ring with the teeth and pushed it down as far as it would go, (one side of the inner ring has lines on it, thats the part that goes down first onto the shaft) then the snap ring at the end of the shaft to hold it in place.
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Then after cleaning the housing of the inner cv joint, i put loads of grease in (not too much tho as it creates an air pocket which i later found out, and stops the shaft going in the whole way!!)
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Then i cleaned all the bearings (six in total) making sure there is no dirt on them
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Then (this is the tricky part) i put the bearings in the holes of the outer ring, which is lined up with the gaps on the inner ring. You have to hold these in place as you put the whole lot into the housing, cause they fall out easily (i developed a technique which i plan to patent some day called "the six finger floosy" haha. Then i lined it up with the gaps for the bearings on the housing and pushed the whole lot in to the very end.
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This is the circlip, the thing that stops it all from coming back out, the hidden little bastard that is the cause for everyone i talked to, to say "it has to be cut off". It's a god damn conspiracy!! haha
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That gets put around the shaft and fitted into the little gap at the very top of the housing, it hides right in there
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Then i put extra grease in the boot, slid it over the cv joint and clamped it in place. Passenger side hybrid shaft complete Wink

I lined up both hybrid shafts with both corolla shafts and they are the same length.
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Top, ST182 shaft and bottom corolla shaft, both passenger side
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Top, ST202 shaft and bottom corolla shaft, both driver side
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Shafts done :thum:

Also, i went around the whole engine loom to see if all the wires were intact, good thing too cause one of the plugs was a mess. Who ever had this engine before me did a shit job on one of the plugs. It was spliced together with 6 different wires, no soldering, just twisted together and taped!! luckily when i bought the gearbox and intake, i was given a donor loom as well (Thanks Gary :thum: ) which came in well handy, just replace the wires and plug and soldered them up good!

The mess
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Cleaned up, soldered and taped with new plug :thum:
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I soldered one other plug that wasn't too bad too.

Today i replaced the front crash bar as the old one was rusted to shit and bent. photos of that up soon, with more updates!! Wink
Heres a couple of pics of the engine as it is!! i desperately need a new camera. This old one im using doesn't focus as well as the one that was nicked!!
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