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PostSubject: 3sgte 4 gen   Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:07 pm

ok so i want to get a 3sgte 4 gen engine and put it in my 97 corolla i just want to know if it would fit straight in and if it required any custom work im guessin its similar to the 3sge which has been done so im guessing it would fit straight in? also id like to know if anyone can help me with the wiring i dont know to much about that... can i just post pictures and get instructions like that or should i go to an electrical wiring expert? if i can get help from anyone by just posting pictures that would be better im not to sure if im allowed to put this engine in california i rather not ask affraid but i havent bought the engine because i want to know everything and know i can install it in a week because i really need my car running becuz i work and go to skoo pale any advice and help would be really appreciated
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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:52 pm

It's a big job, see the traders section on the site - Woodsport.
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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:21 am

i cant see they 3sgte sitting on different mounts (if you are using the mr2 gearbox with the selector from a celica)

you could do it within a week

heres my info on the 3s swap, but driveshafts maybe / will be different

http://www.ae101ownersclub.com/t585-3s-ge-swap-into-a-corolla


i do have the wiring diagrams for a 3sgte if you want

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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:12 pm

thanxk you both do u know what the pros and cons would be of an 3sge swap vs a 3sgte swap?
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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:35 pm

the basics

3sge is n/a.. meaning you have to spend quite abit to get more power out of it, but once you do you can push them quite hard, not alot of strain on any internal parts, bullet proof

3sgte is turbo.. meaning that you power on tap, more power is easy to get, have to let it warm up and cool down properly, oil change alot more often

me personally, i like the rev3 3sge.. best one imo
but everyone has their own personal tastes and choices

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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:53 pm

oh yeah its cause i been told since the 3sgte has a stock turbo they need more maintenance and that they are somewhat less reliable then a n/a engine, by rev3 you mean 3 generation? i was planning to get the 3sge 5 gen... would the stock 6 speed transmission also fit straight in to my corolla? or do i have to use the s54 gearbox for it to fit,sorry if i dont make to much sense im just kinda learning right now
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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:06 pm

yeah i meant the gen 3, the gen 5 may have an egr which would restrict power

afaik there wasnt a 6 speed box available... i used a s54 box and they can take quite abit of abuse lol

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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:03 am

ight cool i appreciate the help! i read the egr can restrict to about 10 hp not too much and if mantained well it shouldnt restrict too much....would a 5gen with egr still be faster the the first 4 gen? is the egr removeable?
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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:40 am

no all the gen 3-5 came with around 168bhp (egr) 175 (non egr)

there were slight differences in the internals, but nothing major

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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:03 pm

thanx Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Mon May 06, 2013 5:05 am

i just wanted to ask a couple questions about the 3s series, which would be the best to completely rebuild 100%??? i want to over bore a 3s engine to 89 bore and leave stroke same add carrillo pistons after market biillet crank after market cams and the whole work low compression large turbo etc.... i know the 3sgte can push more stock uping psi but what the point of getting the 3sgte if imma rebuild the internals any way ? get me? hahaha so is a complete rebuild of a 3sge better than a 3sgte? i cant see any difference since i want to rebuild the whole engine anyway... any help will be appreciated
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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Mon May 06, 2013 6:17 am

sorry im confused,

you want to
rebuild a 3sge?

buy a 3sgte instead?

or rebuild a 3sge and turbo it?

or rebuild a 3sgte?

or build a 5sgte Wink ?

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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Mon May 06, 2013 6:50 am

miib14 wrote:
sorry im confused,

you want to
rebuild a 3sge?

buy a 3sgte instead?

or rebuild a 3sge and turbo it?

or rebuild a 3sgte?

or build a 5sgte Wink ?

hahahah alll buddy i wanna know whats best XD although i read somewhere 5sgte are no good, fast but don tlast Sad
anyways yeah like lets says im gonna completely rebuild a 3s engine shouldnt i go for a 3sge since im gonna put low compression forged pistons and billet crank and stuff XD so i can put large higher turbo psi... even if i got a 3sgte i would do the same to put stronger internals so i can up the psi i know i can get around 450 on stock 3sgte but i wanna push the most out of it with reinforced internals etc! i want a mean machine Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Mon May 06, 2013 6:51 am

i havent been on here for a while kind missed it Sad i was kind of busy with school n work Sad you guys are great help n awesome site bro!
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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Mon May 06, 2013 6:54 am

id say get a 3sgte and rebuild it, the block is stronger and designed to withhold more power

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PostSubject: Re: 3sgte 4 gen   Mon May 06, 2013 9:01 am

thanks bro thats exactly what i wanted to know cause i read everywhere 3sgte is better stock but i cared about which was best for a complete rebuild thanks bro
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