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 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??

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PostSubject: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:50 am

Hi to you all!

i have some questions here...

does anyone had made a project like this?, it is posible? ( swap an ae101 engine for a 4A-GE 16 VALVE TWINCAM)

if yes...

what can you guys tell me about the experience?

if there are some pics or videos please share!

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:51 am

I thought everyone swapped 4ages into their AE101.

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:58 am

gold94corolla wrote:
I thought everyone swapped 4ages into their AE101.

so its almost the same put the 20v BT OR ST, AND THE AE86 ENGINE IN A AE101??
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:00 am

I thought that's what engine you were talking about?

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:09 am

gold94corolla wrote:
I thought that's what engine you were talking about?

YEAH THIS ONE >>>
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:10 am

Oh that is a bit different... never mind then LOL

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:10 am

the ae86 4age 16v should fit the same as 4age 20v but you would need an ae92 gearbox

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:12 am

gold94corolla wrote:
Oh that is a bit different... never mind then LOL

HAHAHA IGHT... MAYBE I SHOULD PUT THE PIC BEFORE HAHA
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:13 am

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Oh that is a bit different... never mind then LOL

HAHAHA IGHT... MAYBE I SHOULD PUT THE PIC BEFORE HAHA

yes, good idea for next time Razz

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:15 am

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the ae86 4age 16v should fit the same as 4age 20v but you would need an ae92 gearbox

THANKS... I WAS THINKING IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT... BUT WANT TO BE SURE... SOME FRIEND TOLD ME TO FIND THE ENGINE SO THE OWNER OF THE ONE THAT IS IN THE PIC HELP ME TO DO THE PROJECT...

BUT IM INTERESTED FOR KNOWING IF SOMEONE AROUND HAVED TRIED THIS BEFORE...
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:18 am

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the ae86 4age 16v should fit the same as 4age 20v but you would need an ae92 gearbox

THANKS... I WAS THINKING IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT... BUT WANT TO BE SURE... SOME FRIEND TOLD ME TO FIND THE ENGINE SO THE OWNER OF THE ONE THAT IS IN THE PIC HELP ME TO DO THE PROJECT...

BUT IM INTERESTED FOR KNOWING IF SOMEONE AROUND HAVED TRIED THIS BEFORE...

It can be done bro yes, same concept as 20v.. but can i ask why are you going for 16v instead?

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:35 am

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miib14 wrote:
the ae86 4age 16v should fit the same as 4age 20v but you would need an ae92 gearbox

THANKS... I WAS THINKING IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT... BUT WANT TO BE SURE... SOME FRIEND TOLD ME TO FIND THE ENGINE SO THE OWNER OF THE ONE THAT IS IN THE PIC HELP ME TO DO THE PROJECT...

BUT IM INTERESTED FOR KNOWING IF SOMEONE AROUND HAVED TRIED THIS BEFORE...

It can be done bro yes, same concept as 20v.. but can i ask why are you going for 16v instead?

1. $$$$$
2. its easier for me to find the 16v working pretty well...
3. Also easier to work with... (considering i will have the help of a great 16v mech.)

hmmmm but most for the first two things

hehe thanks guys!
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:33 pm

ya there's plenty of these around Ireland as you said already the 16v engines are way easier to work as ive had both ae92 and ae101 and in my honest opinion I think the 16v are way stronger! if you can get a hold of a non tvi-s big port hi-torque engine your on to a winner!

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:50 pm

I'll see can I get the link to a thread on Toyota owners club irl of one of the lad who swapped out a 20v in to an E10 saloon, took them about 21hours over two days and drove it home!

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:31 am

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ya there's plenty of these around Ireland as you said already the 16v engines are way easier to work as ive had both ae92 and ae101 and in my honest opinion I think the 16v are way stronger! if you can get a hold of a non tvi-s big port hi-torque engine your on to a winner!

im confused...

the non tvi-s engine comes with a small port

or you mean a non tvi-s engine with a big port computer??

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:02 pm

sorry man I should have explained better ha, when I say port I mean exhaust port and intake port on the head, the tvi-s head is a low torque engine with smaller ports in and out, the later spec in ae92 fwd models had the non tvi-s big port head, bigger ports mean more air fuel in and exhaust out, thicker con rods etc in general a better engine

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:29 am

Afaik all the big port heads were equipped with tvis and only late models came with the 7rib block with the oil squirters,these are known as the ''low torque'' engines.The later ''high torque'' engine had the small ports and no tvis which was usually found in ae92.Unless you have cams with high enough lift and duration to take advantage of the big port head and some crazy revs your better off with the later small port 7rib engine.Is that steelballz corolla vinnie?

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:38 pm

To clear up the confusion (or maybe add to it).

Bigport engines (ie TVIS) have intake larger ports on the head but smaller runners (because there are two runners per port for the TVIS to work). The later smallport engines have smaller ports on the head but larger runners (because there is only one runner per cylinder).

Here is a comparison shot of the two - bigport is on top, smallport is on bottom.



All bigport 4AGEs have TVIS, the early ones have the 3-rib blocks, higher lift cams and smaller journal sizes (blue and black cam cover writing, exposed plug leads), the later ones have 7-rib blocks, smaller cams and bigger journals (red and black cam cover writing, exposed plug leads), neither of them have oil squirters though. The smallport 4AGE does not have TVIS, but has a 7-rib block, oil squirters, larger journals and smaller lift cams, with red and black cam cover writing and covered plug leads.

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:38 am

Are you sure about the oil squirters?A friend of mine is rebuilding his ae92 4age smallport and it has oil squirters aiming underneath the piston skirt.

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE 16V TWINCAM IN A AE101??   Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:42 am

Oh i missread it i tought you said the the smallport had no oil squirters.

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